“Success will be having a different conversation in five years time.” New episode of SAGE podcast featuring USQ Vice-Chancellor

Professor Geraldine Mackenzie, Vice Chancellor of the University of Southern Queensland

Among Australian universities, the University of Southern Queensland is one of only two that have had two female vice-chancellors in a row, and the university’s efforts to achieve greater gender equity are paying off.

“We now have over 50% of our senior staff roles filled by women but we were at 33%, five years ago,” said Vice-Chancellor Professor Geraldine Mackenzie in the latest episode of SAGE’s “Think Difference” podcast.

“That’s a really big change, and we have to keep working on it. We’ve got a long way to go.”

In the ninth episode of the podcast, guest host Jirana Boontanjai spoke with Professor Mackenzie about the successes USQ has had, the challenges she has faced in 2020, and where she sees the university in 2025.

USQ joined the SAGE program in 2017 and was awarded the Athena Swan Institutional Bronze Award in 2020.

“We knew there was a real problem with [the numbers of] women in science, and women being overrepresented in other areas. To get the SAGE Bronze award, [we had] to see where the problems were, the extent of the problem, and then to put in place very directed strategies to solve it.”

Professor Mackenzie said that she is always trying to encourage more women to put their hands up for leadership positions, with varied degrees of success.

She says that positive efforts are needed to get more women considered for senior positions.

“If there’s not enough women on the shortlist, we ask the recruiter to go back and search much harder […] give us people who have talent, ambition and the right experience, but just haven’t had the opportunity yet to show that in a senior position.

“We’ve put in place mentoring programs [and] interview coaching for anyone who’s applying, so that we can give them the maximum possible opportunity, because we don’t want people to miss out on opportunities because they’re having a bad day […] We want to be much deeper than that and look for the talent where it is, but also to encourage and mentor talent.”

But it’s not just cis women—trans and gender diverse people are also actively supported by USQ.

“We have a lot of supports in place, particularly for people who might be going through gender transition, including USQ gender transition guidelines. We have an employee toolkit and […] an ally network who works with LGBTQ people and people who might be transitioning, and that’s proven to be enormously supportive,” said Professor Mackenzie.

“We have a very respectful and inclusive workplace, which I hope models out there in the community for other workplaces. We take that responsibility very seriously for our employees, and I think that’s really helped those individuals who are going through those very, very difficult times.”

She said that USQ is aiming to be a truly inclusive workplace, with a focus on inclusive language and removal of systemic barriers in policy procedures, strategy, and processes.

“I think the mark of my success will be that we’re having a different conversation in five years time. Five years is actually a short time on this journey, but there’s a lot that we can do, and look at the difference we’ve made in the past five years.”

Listen to episode nine of the podcast now and catch up on previous episodes.